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Richard Helgar

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Dec 17, 2019, 10:55:20 AM12/17/19
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FYI snit is flooding COLA with a nym similar to yours and pretending to be
the real Marek Novotny. It's mostly related to a free computer you gave to
snit. I thought you should be aware.

Snit

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Dec 17, 2019, 11:06:23 AM12/17/19
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I am doing no such thing. Marek, if you do read this, know I am eternally
grateful for your kindness. My wife still uses that computer daily.

Your generosity and kindness has had a strong and positive impact on my
family.

Thank you. Again.

And sorry you are being trolled by others. You do not deserve it.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.

Wildman

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Dec 17, 2019, 11:16:41 AM12/17/19
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The last time anyone heard from Marek here in the Linux groups
he was very ill. It is believed that he has passed away. I
think Aragorn may have been the last person to talk to him.

--
<Wildman> GNU/Linux user #557453
The cow died so I don't need your bull!

Richard Helgar

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Dec 17, 2019, 11:22:11 AM12/17/19
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in
news:h5scns...@mid.individual.net:

> Richard Helgar <anothergoo...@mountain.org> wrote:
>> FYI snit is flooding COLA with a nym similar to yours and pretending
>> to be the real Marek Novotny. It's mostly related to a free computer
>> you gave to snit. I thought you should be aware.
>>
>
> I am doing no such thing. Marek, if you do read this, know I am
> eternally grateful for your kindness. My wife still uses that computer
> daily.
>
> Your generosity and kindness has had a strong and positive impact on
> my family.
>
> Thank you. Again.
>
> And sorry you are being trolled by others. You do not deserve it.
>

Indeed you are flooding COLA using a name similar to Marek's nym.
You fired up the nym when you got trapped in several lies snit.

So why don't you explain to Marek how you posted in COLA that Marek gave
you a laptop as an apology for his poor behavior towards you snit?
How about explaining that lie?

The thread is here:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/N7jtMVfMgpU/S9MGjr
_kBAAJ

Snit

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Dec 17, 2019, 11:31:48 AM12/17/19
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Wildman <best...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 15:55:17 +0000, Richard Helgar wrote:
>
>> FYI snit is flooding COLA with a nym similar to yours and pretending to be
>> the real Marek Novotny. It's mostly related to a free computer you gave to
>> snit. I thought you should be aware.
>
> The last time anyone heard from Marek here in the Linux groups
> he was very ill. It is believed that he has passed away. I
> think Aragorn may have been the last person to talk to him.
>

If he has passed away I am sorry to hear that.

Snit

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Dec 17, 2019, 11:32:52 AM12/17/19
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Interest level in your circus and absurd accusations: none.

Richard Helgar

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Dec 17, 2019, 11:33:00 AM12/17/19
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Wildman <best...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:5vWdnYd8Dtr-YmXA...@giganews.com:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 15:55:17 +0000, Richard Helgar wrote:
>
>> FYI snit is flooding COLA with a nym similar to yours and pretending
>> to be the real Marek Novotny. It's mostly related to a free computer
>> you gave to snit. I thought you should be aware.
>
> The last time anyone heard from Marek here in the Linux groups
> he was very ill. It is believed that he has passed away. I
> think Aragorn may have been the last person to talk to him.
>

Oh my that is truly sad news.
R.I.P Marek. I always enjoyed and learned from your expertise.

Snit

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Dec 17, 2019, 11:43:38 AM12/17/19
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He and I did not always see eye to eye, but I appreciated his focus on
tech, his love for learning, and his generosity.

I do know his online accounts reportedly all went away... but I do not
know any of the story behind that.

Richard Helgar

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Dec 17, 2019, 11:44:50 AM12/17/19
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in
news:h5se9h...@mid.individual.net:

> Richard Helgar <anothergoo...@mountain.org> wrote:
>> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in
>> news:h5scns...@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> Richard Helgar <anothergoo...@mountain.org> wrote:
>>>> FYI snit is flooding COLA with a nym similar to yours and
>>>> pretending to be the real Marek Novotny. It's mostly related to a
>>>> free computer you gave to snit. I thought you should be aware.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am doing no such thing. Marek, if you do read this, know I am
>>> eternally grateful for your kindness. My wife still uses that
>>> computer daily.
>>>
>>> Your generosity and kindness has had a strong and positive impact on
>>> my family.
>>>
>>> Thank you. Again.
>>>
>>> And sorry you are being trolled by others. You do not deserve it.
>>>
>>
>> Indeed you are flooding COLA using a name similar to Marek's nym.
>> You fired up the nym when you got trapped in several lies snit.
>>
>> So why don't you explain to Marek how you posted in COLA that Marek
>> gave you a laptop as an apology for his poor behavior towards you
>> snit? How about explaining that lie?
>>
>> The thread is here:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/N7jtMVfMgpU/S9M
>> Gjr _kBAAJ
>>
>>
>
> Interest level in your circus and absurd accusations: none.

I posted the thread where you made the claim. Your words.
Too bad it wasn't you that passed away. It's always the good ones and
never the scumbags like you snit.
Now FOAD.
FUP to COLA.

Snit

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Dec 17, 2019, 11:52:34 AM12/17/19
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You get mighty angry when your circus does not get the response you
want. Interesting. You are crying for attention but not getting the type
attention you want.

Aragorn

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Dec 17, 2019, 12:01:15 PM12/17/19
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On 17.12.2019 at 10:16, Wildman scribbled:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 15:55:17 +0000, Richard Helgar wrote:
>
> > FYI snit is flooding COLA with a nym similar to yours and
> > pretending to be the real Marek Novotny. It's mostly related to a
> > free computer you gave to snit. I thought you should be aware.
>
> The last time anyone heard from Marek here in the Linux groups
> he was very ill. It is believed that he has passed away. I
> think Aragorn may have been the last person to talk to him.

I was, yes. He was under medical supervision at the time, constantly in
and out of hospital — at least once of which he was rushed in by
ambulance, if my memory serves me right. He had a blood clot in his
left lung, and the doctors had prescribed blood thinners, but those in
turned caused serious other complications — I don't remember what those
were anymore, other than that it was just as dangerous.

One of the things he talked about in our last exchanges was the fact
that he had indeed sent a free computer to Snit, who was harassing and
stalking him for gratitude. But Marek would indeed do that sort of
thing. He was extremely generous.

He even offered to send a laptop to myself as well, but I declined on
his offer because I know that shipping something from the USA to
Belgium is VERY expensive, plus that I'd probably have difficulty
finding a matching wall power cable — our wall plugs are different —
and that the keyboard layout would also be very different; we use the
Belgian AZERTY layout.

I've had my own encounters with Snit in a past longer gone — I was
subscribed to C.O.L.A. for a short while myself around 2004-2005 — and
I will confirm that Snit is a very disturbed and malicious individual.

--
With respect,
= Aragorn =

Snit

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Dec 17, 2019, 12:09:27 PM12/17/19
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Marek and I had disagreements, but in the end he backed off his attacks and
kindly sent my family a computer. He was a good man. Hopefully the rumors
of his death are not true.

Richard Helgar

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Dec 17, 2019, 12:19:29 PM12/17/19
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in
news:h5sge5...@mid.individual.net:
Cut the sugar and honey routine snit because nobody is falling for it.

More of your lies snit. He never attacked you until you started to stalk
him, insulted him and in general acted like a crazy person despite him
giving your wife, not you, your wife, a free laptop.
You are such an ungrateful, fucking liar, snit.
It's all in Google for anyone who would like to waste time.
FUP to COLA where snit belongs.

Apologies to alt.os.linux. My last post on this one.

Soviet_Mario

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Dec 17, 2019, 12:33:30 PM12/17/19
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what of these does COLA acronym means ?

https://www.allacronyms.com/COLA


--
1) Resistere, resistere, resistere.
2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
Soviet_Mario - (aka Gatto_Vizzato)

Chris Elvidge

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Dec 17, 2019, 12:46:47 PM12/17/19
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On 17/12/2019 17:33, Soviet_Mario wrote:
> On 17/12/19 16:55, Richard Helgar wrote:
>> FYI snit is flooding COLA with a nym similar to yours and pretending
>> to be
>> the real Marek Novotny. It's mostly related to a free computer you
>> gave to
>> snit. I thought you should be aware.
>>
>
>
> what of these does COLA acronym means ?
>
> https://www.allacronyms.com/COLA
>
>
comp.os.linux.advocacy

Don't add any .advocacy groups unless you really want them.


--

Chris Elvidge, England

Snit

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Dec 17, 2019, 2:41:22 PM12/17/19
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No clue what you are even talking about. He had some VPN scripts he was
very proud of. Cool. He got it in his head that not only could I not do
what he did (absolutely correct, I am a crappy scripter, and at the time
had no VPN provider) but that this meant the Mac could not do as he did.
I have no idea where he got that in his head. He also seemed to think
that even if the Mac could not do it that this would be a bad sign about
ME, as if I designed and made Macs or claimed they could do all things
or were best at all things. It was weird.

I never fully understood WHY he wanted to quit apps based on his VPN (a
firewall seemed the better solution) but I had no issue with him doing
things the way HE wants. I do not need to think it is the "best" way...
as if we need to agree on all tech ideas and again he seemed to take
offense at that. He ended up doing a LOT of name calling and insulting.
I responded to that. And, yes, things got contentious.

In the end I did get a VPN service (saw one for free, still have it),
then showed him it was pretty trivial to have apps quit as he described.

https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro

No doubt the tone there is not of my being pleased with him, but I was
working on a task that was very important to him. Not to me. I was doing
him a favor to show how the task could be done.

He thanked me for it and admitted that the solution I showed did as he
asked. And somewhere in there he sent me a computer as a "peace
offering" or whatever... he and I went into why more in private
correspondence I will not share. But suffice it to say if he was really
angry with me it is unlikely he would have made such an amazingly kind
offer to my family.

No matter the disagreements I had with him I liked him and respect him
and am VERY thankful. And though I do not get some of the anger he had
or whatever that lead him to make bizarre attacks, I very much
appreciate and respect his skills. As I said, he was a MUCH better
scripter than I will ever be, and he was willing to share his knowledge.

Now, in COLA, Carroll is having one of his public breakdowns and blaming
me for forging his multiple gmail accounts and more, and is almost
certainly behind the "Marek" account. Then for some reason people in
THIS group started talking about it, blamed me (with no evidence or
support -- none exists, of course), and then started cross posting back
to COLA.

Usenet is a funny place.

Anyway, all responses FROM alt.os.linux I will try to send back here. No
need to add to the cross posting nonsense.

Snit

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Dec 17, 2019, 2:53:21 PM12/17/19
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On 12/17/19 11:06 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
...
>>> Marek and I had disagreements, but in the end he backed off his
>>> attacks and kindly sent my family a computer. He was a good man.
>>
>> Cut the sugar and honey routine snit because nobody is falling for it.
>>
>> More of your lies snit. He never attacked you until you started to stalk
>> him, insulted him and in general acted like a crazy person despite him
>> giving your wife, not you, your wife, a free laptop.
>
> I believe it was Snit who used my name to send Marek emails. Eventually,
> Marek figured out it wasn't me and he publicly offered me a *real* apology,
> in the place it deserved to be given (unlike Snit's bogus claim * above):
>
> "So I owe you an apology, Steve. You never sent me mail requesting that
> I lie. It was a fake account. I am sure of this now."
>
> <i62dnZ-yp56wBiPE...@giganews.com>
>
> So... Snit would have readers believe Marek privately apologized
> to him while still treating Snit the way he did in COLA afterwards.
> Example: <x_qdnaG757b4kCjE...@giganews.com>
>
> Clearly, we're just all as stupid as Snit needs us to be <eyeroll>.

You are so proud you fooled Marek into thinking your multiple accounts
were not yours... even though just in the last 24 hours YOU got them
confused:

<ee9f57e6-0d02-4d1d...@googlegroups.com>
-----
> Having backed himself into such a corner Carroll might
> drop the attacks in this sub thread and post other ones
> elsewhere. Should have included that in my prediction.

Right...your "prediction"... where you use an acct that
bears my name to fulfill it, Mr. Soothsayer.
-----

From the header of the post Carroll blamed me for:
-----
From: Steve Carroll <fretw...@gmail.com>
...
Message-Id: <6a1e7708-3d85-4ea6...@googlegroups.com>
-----

Yup... you blamed me for a post from your "fretwizzer" account, and you
did so from the same account.

Soviet_Mario

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Dec 17, 2019, 2:56:25 PM12/17/19
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ok, I won't ... actually I'm not even sure of the translation.
In my mother language "advocates" are attorneys/layers. So I
figured out some sort of discussion-oriented ng (discussion
in the meaning of debates)

But I have noticed for the few times I happened to interact
with threads stemmed from "there" a lot of tendency to
nurture useless flames rather than debates, so your advice
is welcome, and maybe I'll just try to add some filter

Snit

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Dec 17, 2019, 3:24:32 PM12/17/19
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Soviet_Mario <Sovie...@CCCP.MIR> wrote:
> On 17/12/19 18:46, Chris Elvidge wrote:
>> On 17/12/2019 17:33, Soviet_Mario wrote:
>>> On 17/12/19 16:55, Richard Helgar wrote:
>>>> FYI snit is flooding COLA with a nym similar to yours and
>>>> pretending to be
>>>> the real Marek Novotny. It's mostly related to a free
>>>> computer you gave to
>>>> snit. I thought you should be aware.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> what of these does COLA acronym means ?
>>>
>>> https://www.allacronyms.com/COLA
>>>
>>>
>> comp.os.linux.advocacy
>>
>> Don't add any .advocacy groups unless you really want them.
>>
>>
>
> ok, I won't ... actually I'm not even sure of the translation.
> In my mother language "advocates" are attorneys/layers. So I
> figured out some sort of discussion-oriented ng (discussion
> in the meaning of debates)
>
> But I have noticed for the few times I happened to interact
> with threads stemmed from "there" a lot of tendency to
> nurture useless flames rather than debates, so your advice
> is welcome, and maybe I'll just try to add some filter
>

It is an absolute cesspool there. No doubt.

RonB

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Dec 17, 2019, 3:35:32 PM12/17/19
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Me too. He's been missed. And he personally sent "Snit" one of his Apple
computers to help him out. And now that worthless parasite says it was sent
to him as an "apology." As if Marek had anything to apologize for to that
scum.

--
"People are innocent until alleged to be involved in some
kind of criminal activity." — John Brennan, ex-CIA Director

Snit

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Dec 17, 2019, 3:50:34 PM12/17/19
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On 12/17/19 1:35 PM, RonB wrote:
> On 2019-12-17, Richard Helgar <anothergoo...@mountain.org> wrote:
>> Wildman <best...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:5vWdnYd8Dtr-YmXA...@giganews.com:
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 15:55:17 +0000, Richard Helgar wrote:
>>>
>>>> FYI snit is flooding COLA with a nym similar to yours and pretending
>>>> to be the real Marek Novotny. It's mostly related to a free computer
>>>> you gave to snit. I thought you should be aware.
>>>
>>> The last time anyone heard from Marek here in the Linux groups
>>> he was very ill. It is believed that he has passed away. I
>>> think Aragorn may have been the last person to talk to him.
>>>
>>
>> Oh my that is truly sad news.
>> R.I.P Marek. I always enjoyed and learned from your expertise.
>
> Me too. He's been missed. And he personally sent "Snit" one of his Apple
> computers to help him out.

He did. And I am very thankful and appreciative of it. My wife uses it
daily.

> And now that worthless parasite says it was sent
> to him as an "apology." As if Marek had anything to apologize for to that
> scum.

You never read his posts? But you did read his emails to me? What?

He also publicly made it clear, in the end, his claims about me and the
Mac (which he also attacked as if that was about me?!?!?) were not true.
I showed him a very easy way of doing what he was saying could not be
done on Macs. He is a MUCH better scripter than I am, but it was pretty
trivial (once I had a VPN solution) to write a dozen or so line script
to do everything he was asking about and insisting could not be done on
the Mac.

Aragorn

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Dec 18, 2019, 2:05:01 AM12/18/19
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On 17.12.2019 at 20:35, RonB scribbled:

> On 2019-12-17, Richard Helgar <anothergoo...@mountain.org>
> wrote:
> > Wildman <best...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > news:5vWdnYd8Dtr-YmXA...@giganews.com:
> >
> >> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 15:55:17 +0000, Richard Helgar wrote:
> >>
> >>> FYI snit is flooding COLA with a nym similar to yours and
> >>> pretending to be the real Marek Novotny. It's mostly related to a
> >>> free computer you gave to snit. I thought you should be aware.
> >>
> >> The last time anyone heard from Marek here in the Linux groups
> >> he was very ill. It is believed that he has passed away. I
> >> think Aragorn may have been the last person to talk to him.
> >>
> >
> > Oh my that is truly sad news.
> > R.I.P Marek. I always enjoyed and learned from your expertise.
>
> Me too. He's been missed. And he personally sent "Snit" one of his
> Apple computers to help him out. And now that worthless parasite says
> it was sent to him as an "apology." As if Marek had anything to
> apologize for to that scum.

Marek most definitely did not send Snit that computer as an apology —
that's not what Marek told me. If anything, then it was Snit who owed
Marek an apology — actually, a whole busload of them.

Like I said, Snit is a very disturbed and sick individual. His word is
NEVER to be trusted.

Aragorn

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Dec 18, 2019, 2:12:17 AM12/18/19
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On 17.12.2019 at 20:56, Soviet_Mario scribbled:

> On 17/12/19 18:46, Chris Elvidge wrote:
>
> > On 17/12/2019 17:33, Soviet_Mario wrote:
> >
> >> what of these does COLA acronym means ?
> >>
> >> https://www.allacronyms.com/COLA
> >>
> > comp.os.linux.advocacy
> >
> > Don't add any .advocacy groups unless you really want them.
>
> ok, I won't ... actually I'm not even sure of the translation.
> In my mother language "advocates" are attorneys/layers. So I
> figured out some sort of discussion-oriented ng (discussion
> in the meaning of debates)

The English word "advocacy" denotes an activity or a debate with the
intent of promoting something, but without sinking into propaganda
tactics.

> But I have noticed for the few times I happened to interact
> with threads stemmed from "there" a lot of tendency to
> nurture useless flames rather than debates, so your advice
> is welcome, and maybe I'll just try to add some filter

comp.os.linux.advocacy is a sewer, and has been under siege from a
small number of rabid and mentally deranged Windows fanatics since the
group's inception. These Windows fanatics are small in numbers, but they
use sock puppet accounts to make it appear as if they are legion. They
also lie all the time.

Nothing that gets crossposted between C.O.L.A. and other newsgroups
will ever lead to anything constructive. Those threads are
deliberately intended as flame bait, and they always succeed in their
intent.

Snit

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Dec 18, 2019, 2:47:45 AM12/18/19
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It was a peace offering. I will not share his emails as he never gave
permission, but esp once I showed how easy his VPN solution was on a Mac if
you have a VPN solution he publicly admitted I had done so and, I think,
even noted the whole argument was silly.

He had the strange notion that because he was a better scripted then I,
which is 100% true, this meant macOS was incapable and somehow I was trying
my view of myself to what can be done on Macs. Both were utterly incorrect
beliefs of his, and in the end he was no longer pushing them.

He was (and hopefully still is) a very good man who was generous with his
knowledge and even with sending people computers (or at least one). I think
of him often, and fondly so.

Snit

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Dec 18, 2019, 2:47:46 AM12/18/19
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True — but it is not just Windows folks. The biggest sock user and flooded
there is a man who just likes to create mayhem and play victim. He doxes
people, cries his accounts are hacked and forged, and otherwise is deeply
inappropriate.

Tommy

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Dec 18, 2019, 8:01:28 AM12/18/19
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in
news:h5u3sv...@mid.individual.net:
Get lost you lying, narcissistic piece of shit.
Can't you take a hint snit?
Nobody wants you around.
So why not do the right thing and just leave Usenet forever.

Snit

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Dec 18, 2019, 6:32:25 PM12/18/19
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Best wishes in dealing with your anger issues or whatever you are going
though.

Aragorn

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Dec 19, 2019, 6:49:46 AM12/19/19
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On 17.12.2019 at 15:55, Richard Helgar scribbled:

> FYI snit is flooding COLA with a nym similar to yours and pretending
> to be the real Marek Novotny. It's mostly related to a free computer
> you gave to snit. I thought you should be aware.

There has been a followup to this situation — or at least, sideways.

Believe it or not, but completely unrelated to the events in C.O.L.A. —
which I don't monitor — I have received an email from Marek yesterday,
out of the blue, after three years of absence. Marek has no idea
what's going on in C.O.L.A., and he doesn't even have a Usenet account
anymore at the moment.

His disappearance, while disconcerting and leading people to the
conclusion as that Marek would have passed away, is however
understandable, once you know the background.

Around the time of Snit's stalking of Marek and Marek's activity in
C.O.L.A., Marek's father died — his mother had just passed away —
shortly followed by the death of his sister as well. That, his very
serious health problems, and the harassment by Snit and the other
C.O.L.A. trolls, caused Marek to flip a bit in his brain and on a
whim, he decided to rid himself of anything to do with Usenet, the
GNU/Linux newsgroups, and even the internet at large. He immediately
sold all of his electronics and he radically changed his life.

He is maintaining this different lifestyle right now, but he has now
passed all of the scripts he was working on over to me. I'll see
whether I can upload them somewhere, or get someone else to do it — I
don't really own any websites, and I don't have a GitHub account, but
some of the people I'm in contact with do.

Now, if the above seems all too convenient, then let me assure you that
I've taken the necessary steps to make sure that the person who was
suddenly emailing me out of the blue from Marek's domain — which he
still owns — was really Marek.

So I have asked him a number of things that only he could have known
about — things from his own life, things that he and I had been working
on together, and things from my personal life. And not only did he
give me all the right answers, but he even went into great detail in
describing everything. So, yes, it IS the real Marek.

Anyway, like I said, he has passed all of his shell scripts onto me —
one of which he had never published so far, and I'm not sure whether he
finished it because I haven't looked at it closely yet — and so if
anyone is interested in his scripts, then I'll see whether I can make
them available.

Dan Purgert

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Dec 19, 2019, 7:22:45 AM12/19/19
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Aragorn wrote:
> [...]
> Anyway, like I said, he has passed all of his shell scripts onto me —
> one of which he had never published so far, and I'm not sure whether he
> finished it because I haven't looked at it closely yet — and so if
> anyone is interested in his scripts, then I'll see whether I can make
> them available.

I certainly am. They were well-written, and worked well for people.


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Aragorn

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Dec 19, 2019, 7:40:42 AM12/19/19
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On 19.12.2019 at 12:22, Dan Purgert scribbled:

> Aragorn wrote:
> > [...]
> > Anyway, like I said, he has passed all of his shell scripts onto me
> > — one of which he had never published so far, and I'm not sure
> > whether he finished it because I haven't looked at it closely yet —
> > and so if anyone is interested in his scripts, then I'll see
> > whether I can make them available.
>
> I certainly am. They were well-written, and worked well for people.

I will email the .zip file to you in a few minutes. ;)

William Poaster

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Dec 19, 2019, 9:08:44 AM12/19/19
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I can also confirm that.


William Poaster

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Dec 19, 2019, 9:09:25 AM12/19/19
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+1

Snit

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Dec 19, 2019, 9:28:23 AM12/19/19
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Glad to hear he is alive, assuming you are not lying about that as you lie
about other things above.

Snit

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Dec 19, 2019, 9:28:23 AM12/19/19
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I don’t even recall what debates we had.

Wildman

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Dec 19, 2019, 11:23:08 AM12/19/19
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I also would like to have a look. If you email me, use the
Comcast addy.

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Aragorn

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Dec 19, 2019, 11:52:07 AM12/19/19
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On 19.12.2019 at 10:23, Wildman scribbled:

> On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 13:40:40 +0100, Aragorn wrote:
>
> > On 19.12.2019 at 12:22, Dan Purgert scribbled:
> >
> >> Aragorn wrote:
> >> > [...]
> >> > Anyway, like I said, he has passed all of his shell scripts onto
> >> > me — one of which he had never published so far, and I'm not sure
> >> > whether he finished it because I haven't looked at it closely
> >> > yet — and so if anyone is interested in his scripts, then I'll
> >> > see whether I can make them available.
> >>
> >> I certainly am. They were well-written, and worked well for
> >> people.
> >
> > I will email the .zip file to you in a few minutes. ;)
>
> I also would like to have a look. If you email me, use the
> Comcast addy.

I've already done that, earlier today — I CC'd you in on the mail to
Dan Purgert. The .zip file should be in your inbox. :)

RonB

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Dec 19, 2019, 1:15:20 PM12/19/19
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I've got slrn set to autmatically filter out any and all crossposted
messages. I simply don't see them.

RonB

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Dec 19, 2019, 1:20:47 PM12/19/19
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That's unbelievably good news! Thanks for passing that on. And, if you
contact Marek, tell him thanks again for all the help he gave me (and all of
us). Also pass on condolences for his father, mother and sister. Thanks for
this post!

Snit

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Dec 19, 2019, 2:45:57 PM12/19/19
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Good thought. Do not even know why this thread was created in
alt.os.linux. I do not know Richard Helgar nor how much he does for such
attention, but it was odd. And I think later he is the one who
crossposted it to COLA, though I could be wrong about that.

I simply do not get having such a need for attention and drama.

Stephen Hall

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Dec 19, 2019, 3:06:31 PM12/19/19
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Aragorn <thor...@telenet.be> wrote:

> So, yes, it IS the real Marek.

Good to hear he’s alive. Hopefully he’s happy with his new life.

Wildman

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Dec 19, 2019, 4:02:01 PM12/19/19
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I got the email but there was no attachment. Don't know why. I did
check the on-line interface and it was not there. The file would
have to be very big for Comcast to reject it. (I haven't been able
to find the size limit although I know it is quite large.) Please
try sending directly to me without the CC. If that doesn't work,
maybe try the Yahoo address.

Thanks.

Aragorn

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Dec 20, 2019, 3:11:57 AM12/20/19
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On 19.12.2019 at 15:01, Wildman scribbled:
The file is only 54 KiB or so. Maybe it was because of the CC. I'll
try sending it again. If it doesn't work, I'll temporarily upload it
somewhere and give you the link.

Snit

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Dec 20, 2019, 1:10:37 PM12/20/19
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I would love to see copies as well. If he is open to it, why not post
them publicly... but of course checking with him first!

Paul

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Dec 20, 2019, 2:34:11 PM12/20/19
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If he wanted everyone to have a copy... he'd
have used USENET, right ?

Given his wish to be done with USENET, I don't
expect a public display of the email would be at
all within his intent.

Paul

Mike Easter

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Dec 20, 2019, 2:49:59 PM12/20/19
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Paul wrote:
> If he wanted everyone to have a copy... he'd
> have used USENET, right ?
>
> Given his wish to be done with USENET, I don't
> expect a public display of the email would be at
> all within his intent.

It doesn't seem to me that his behavior, from cessation of contact and
Aragorn's report now leading to the present, lends itself at all to
prediction of what he might want or not.

That is, a disruptive transition of great consequence, followed by a
return to COLA.

That doesn't seem very predictable to me.

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Snit

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Dec 20, 2019, 5:48:08 PM12/20/19
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Who knows... he is not on Usenet to say for himself.

> Given his wish to be done with USENET, I don't
> expect a public display of the email would be at
> all within his intent.

Seems he was open to others having them: "so if anyone is interested in
his scripts, then I'll see whether I can make them available"

In any case, I would be interested.
>    Paul

Snit

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Dec 20, 2019, 5:49:34 PM12/20/19
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Whatever his intent, I hope the claims of him being alive are true...
and would love to see his work. I have no issue with him wanting or not
to return to Usenet.

Dan C

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Dec 21, 2019, 12:05:00 AM12/21/19
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DID YOU KILL HIM AND STEAL ALL HIS SCRIPTS!!!???

Yes, it certainly does seem a little too "convenient". I think you're
full of shit and a liar.

Bugger off, poser.


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Snit

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Dec 21, 2019, 12:11:22 AM12/21/19
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It did seem a bit convenient.

trucker

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Dec 21, 2019, 10:08:01 AM12/21/19
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Dan C <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote in
news:pan$9f7e3$aa10ad85$c26eb10d$9ef5...@moria.lan:
What's interesting is that the snit vs Marek and the free macbook Marek
gave to snit topic was being rehashed in COLA and as usual snit was lying
his sorry ass off because Marek hasn't been around to counter his lies.

So now out of nowhere the ghost of Marek past surfaces and once again
snit is in the middle of it.

Snit has impersonated people before and continues to do so with his
frelwizzen@gmail <Steve Carroll> flood bot where he created an account
similar to the real Steve Carroll<fretw...@gmail.com> and he spams COLA
as well as other groups with his automated crap.

I say snit is behind all of this so be careful and don't assume anything
until proven well beyond doubt. Snit is a slimy creature for sure and he
has more tricks than a $20.00 whore standing on a dark corner at 2 AM.

Snit

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Dec 21, 2019, 11:19:43 AM12/21/19
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Another Carroll sock post.

Mike Easter

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Dec 21, 2019, 11:50:03 AM12/21/19
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Mike Easter wrote:

> It doesn't seem to me that his behavior, from cessation of contact and
> Aragorn's report now leading to the present, lends itself at all to
> prediction of what he might want or not.
>
> That is, a disruptive transition of great consequence, followed by a
> return to COLA.
>
In the above, I mistakenly interpreted Aragorn's msg
From: Aragorn
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Ping Marek Novotny
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 12:49:44 +0100
Message-ID: <20191219124944.39f1f02e@nx-74205>

... about Marek recent communication w/ him as indicating that the Marek
msg/s in COLA were from Marek. Now it is clear to me that the COLA
Marek msg/s are NOT from the Marek Novotny that I'm familiar w/ from the
past.

So, the idea that Marek 'returned' to cola is untrue; altho' back then I
always felt that the Marek of the past should've stayed out of cola
altogether.


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Aragorn

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Dec 21, 2019, 12:08:56 PM12/21/19
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On 21.12.2019 at 08:49, Mike Easter scribbled:

> Mike Easter wrote:
>
> > It doesn't seem to me that his behavior, from cessation of contact
> > and Aragorn's report now leading to the present, lends itself at
> > all to prediction of what he might want or not.
> >
> > That is, a disruptive transition of great consequence, followed by
> > a return to COLA.
> >
> In the above, I mistakenly interpreted Aragorn's msg
> From: Aragorn
> Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
> Subject: Re: Ping Marek Novotny
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 12:49:44 +0100
> Message-ID: <20191219124944.39f1f02e@nx-74205>
>
> ... about Marek recent communication w/ him as indicating that the
> Marek msg/s in COLA were from Marek. Now it is clear to me that the
> COLA Marek msg/s are NOT from the Marek Novotny that I'm familiar w/
> from the past.
>
> So, the idea that Marek 'returned' to cola is untrue;

That is correct. Marek is NOT monitoring ANY newsgroups on Usenet
anymore — least of all C.O.L.A — and he has clearly indicated that he's
not planning on ever returning to Usenet.

> altho' back then I always felt that the Marek of the past should've
> stayed out of cola altogether.

That was my advice to him at the time as well. Sadly enough, he
thought he could handle it at the time. And while I am certain that
Marek will have been an exemplary GNU/Linux advocate, C.O.L.A. is no
place for GNU/Linux advocacy.

C.O.L.A. is merely a free-for-all fighting pit, where all rules and
human decency have already long been abandoned. Decent human beings
have nothing to gain from subscribing to C.O.L.A., other than a
migraine.

Rene Lamontagne

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Dec 21, 2019, 12:29:22 PM12/21/19
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I wouldn't *Piss* on C.O.L.A if it was on *Fire*.

Rene

Steve Carroll

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Dec 21, 2019, 3:33:46 PM12/21/19
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On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 at 9:22:11 AM UTC-7, Richard Helgar wrote:
> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in
> news:h5scns...@mid.individual.net:
>
> > Richard Helgar <anothergoo...@mountain.org> wrote:
> >> FYI snit is flooding COLA with a nym similar to yours and pretending
> >> to be the real Marek Novotny. It's mostly related to a free computer
> >> you gave to snit. I thought you should be aware.
> >>
> >
> > I am doing no such thing. Marek, if you do read this, know I am
> > eternally grateful for your kindness. My wife still uses that computer
> > daily.
> >
> > Your generosity and kindness has had a strong and positive impact on
> > my family.
> >
> > Thank you. Again.
> >
> > And sorry you are being trolled by others. You do not deserve it.
> >
>
> Indeed you are flooding COLA using a name similar to Marek's nym.
> You fired up the nym when you got trapped in several lies snit.
>
> So why don't you explain to Marek how you posted in COLA that Marek gave
> you a laptop as an apology for his poor behavior towards you snit?
> How about explaining that lie?
>
> The thread is here:
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/N7jtMVfMgpU/S9MGjr
> _kBAAJ



You hacked it and took it for a test drive and your "intuitions" lead you to that conclusion, so what? What's the world coming to when a mGhost troll can not get any traction?

Being autonomous as it is, low-level programming will never go away but it'll never be known by the general public. It is the same pattern that happens in every group mGhost visits. Gee, imagine mGhost trying to pin his phooey on me, no one has ever seen that before <sarcasm>.



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Aragorn

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Dec 21, 2019, 6:08:48 PM12/21/19
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On 21.12.2019 at 18:01, Bud Frede scribbled:

> Aragorn <thor...@telenet.be> writes:
>
> > On 21.12.2019 at 08:49, Mike Easter scribbled:
> >
> >> Mike Easter wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> altho' back then I always felt that the Marek of the past should've
> >> stayed out of cola altogether.
> >
> > That was my advice to him at the time as well. Sadly enough, he
> > thought he could handle it at the time. And while I am certain
> > that
>
> I also sent him an e-mail when he first started posting to cola to
> warn him that no good would come of it.
>
> If you jump into the sewer, you too will become covered in s[hn]it.

It's like mud-wrestling with a pig. You both become covered in shit,
but the pig likes it. ;)

Snit

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Dec 21, 2019, 6:12:03 PM12/21/19
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On 12/21/19 4:01 PM, Bud Frede wrote:
> Aragorn <thor...@telenet.be> writes:
>
>> On 21.12.2019 at 08:49, Mike Easter scribbled:
>>
>>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> altho' back then I always felt that the Marek of the past should've
>>> stayed out of cola altogether.
>>
>> That was my advice to him at the time as well. Sadly enough, he
>> thought he could handle it at the time. And while I am certain that
>
> I also sent him an e-mail when he first started posting to cola to warn
> him that no good would come of it.
>
> If you jump into the sewer, you too will become covered in s[hn]it.

Marek was a people pleaser... he wanted to be liked and appreciated by
the "advocates" in COLA. He sometimes let that get in the way of him
making reasoned arguments, but overall he was a very good person and I
miss having him in the group.

James B. Lightmoore

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Dec 21, 2019, 6:38:11 PM12/21/19
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On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 16:12:00 -0700, Snit
<use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>On 12/21/19 4:01 PM, Bud Frede wrote:
>> Aragorn <thor...@telenet.be> writes:
>>
>>> On 21.12.2019 at 08:49, Mike Easter scribbled:
>>>
>>>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>> altho' back then I always felt that the Marek of the past should've
>>>> stayed out of cola altogether.
>>>
>>> That was my advice to him at the time as well. Sadly enough, he
>>> thought he could handle it at the time. And while I am certain that
>>
>> I also sent him an e-mail when he first started posting to cola to warn
>> him that no good would come of it.
>>
>> If you jump into the sewer, you too will become covered in s[hn]it.
>
>Marek was a people pleaser... he wanted to be liked and appreciated by
>the "advocates" in COLA. He sometimes let that get in the way of him
>making reasoned arguments, but overall he was a very good person and I
>miss having him in the group.

Fuck you snit.
FOAD.

Snit

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Dec 21, 2019, 7:30:23 PM12/21/19
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I hope you find a better way to handle your anger issues. Good luck.

James B. Lightmoore

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Dec 21, 2019, 7:34:25 PM12/21/19
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On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 17:30:19 -0700, Snit
<use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>On 12/21/19 4:38 PM, James B. Lightmoore wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 16:12:00 -0700, Snit
>> <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/21/19 4:01 PM, Bud Frede wrote:
>>>> Aragorn <thor...@telenet.be> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On 21.12.2019 at 08:49, Mike Easter scribbled:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> altho' back then I always felt that the Marek of the past should've
>>>>>> stayed out of cola altogether.
>>>>>
>>>>> That was my advice to him at the time as well. Sadly enough, he
>>>>> thought he could handle it at the time. And while I am certain that
>>>>
>>>> I also sent him an e-mail when he first started posting to cola to warn
>>>> him that no good would come of it.
>>>>
>>>> If you jump into the sewer, you too will become covered in s[hn]it.
>>>
>>> Marek was a people pleaser... he wanted to be liked and appreciated by
>>> the "advocates" in COLA. He sometimes let that get in the way of him
>>> making reasoned arguments, but overall he was a very good person and I
>>> miss having him in the group.
>>
>> Fuck you snit.
>> FOAD.
>>
>
>I hope you find a better way to handle your anger issues. Good luck.

I have no anger issues snit. Go back to school and this time listen to
the professors.
I just don't tolerate fools and you are the biggest fool in this, and
other groups.
If you would like to discuss your feelings of inadequacy please ping
me as I am a degreed psychologist.

Steve Carroll

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Dec 21, 2019, 7:37:50 PM12/21/19
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Turns out mGhost's constant mentioning of Michael Glasser Snit met the agreed on criteria of trolling, so he accused Michael Glasser Snit of making that up.

LOL! Right, mGhost is wanting to market a web variable, which Michael Glasser Snit can get blindfolded. If he could stop being so slow he'd realize how lost he is.

Another successful USB 3 Linux driver test. That is if you count utter failure as a success.

How is LibreOffice on Linux doing anything above the lowest common denominator?

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Snit

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Dec 21, 2019, 7:40:17 PM12/21/19
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Then why present yourself as someone who does. Re-read what you wrote:

-----
Fuck you snit.
FOAD.
-----

Clearly you are having some challenges. I sincerely wish you well. At
the same time I will ask, if you can, to please try not to get me
involved with your personal issues. Your drama is not mine.

> Go back to school and this time listen to
> the professors.
> I just don't tolerate fools and you are the biggest fool in this, and
> other groups.
> If you would like to discuss your feelings of inadequacy please ping
> me as I am a degreed psychologist.

Ah, Carroll... I did not realize this one one of your socks before.
Silly me. Should have noticed. Thanks for outing yourself.

James B. Lightmoore

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Dec 21, 2019, 7:54:04 PM12/21/19
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On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 17:40:09 -0700, Snit
You need to go back to school
Advising someone to FOAD does not indicate any form of personal
issues.
It's an opinion.
You didn't read the textbook did you snit.

However, being a pathological liar, a person suffering from NPD, DID
and other problems is the life you lead.

Youa re a very sick individual snit.
It's obvious.
You are a pathological liar who actually believes his lies which is
not only rare but quite dangerous.
Hopefully your family is well protected against you snapping and going
postal.

Steve Carroll

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Dec 21, 2019, 8:22:58 PM12/21/19
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Does being "actually guilty" mean you have:

A) Been found guilty in a court of law
B) Broken a law / Committed a crime

VPN Egomaniac Marek Novotny argues FOR B (actually guilty = committed the crime)
-----
What's CLEAR is that Justice Black is making a distinction
between a situation where a person has *actually* committed
the crime (what he calls being *actually guilty) and being
*legally* guilt.
-----

VPN Egomaniac Marek Novotny argues AGAINST B (actually guilty <> committed the crime)
-----
The tough part to deal with is that you needn't *actually*
have committed the crime to be *actually* guilty in this
context.
-----

VPN Egomaniac Marek Novotny argues FOR B (actually guilty = committed the crime)
-----
When Black uses the term *actually guilty* he means actually
having committed the crime. He is holding this up against the
concept of legal guilty where this isn't necessarily the
case.
-----

VPN Egomaniac Marek Novotny argues FOR A (actually guilty = found guilty)
-----
Being guilty "in a legal sense", being found guilty "in a
legal sense", being determined guilty "in a legal sense" or
being *actually* guilty "in a legal sense", all mean the same
thing.
-----

VPN Egomaniac Marek Novotny argues FOR B (actually guilty = committed the crime)
-----
[Justice Black] is drawing the distinction between legal
guilt and ACTUALLY having committed the crime... the same
distinction that *I* am drawing.
-----

VPN Egomaniac Marek Novotny argues for... C? (actually guilty DOES NOT EXIST!)
-----
There is no such thing as *actually* guilty in this context.
There is only guilty or not guilty.
-----

Strange how one person can have so many contradictory views, and *still*
think they are being consistent.

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Steve Carroll

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Dec 22, 2019, 2:31:17 AM12/22/19
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On Saturday, December 21, 2019 at 5:40:17 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
Now Snit (a real advocate) on the other end of the shit doesn't matter. All that matters is vallor gets to deliver the attack. So how to respond? Don't reply to the moron. Honest discussion isn't part of stratagem and never was. This is something you know nothing about.

This is what comes about when deeply bad self-respect takes over vallor's persona.



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Wildman

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Dec 22, 2019, 1:16:20 PM12/22/19
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 09:11:55 +0100, Aragorn wrote:

> > The file is only 54 KiB or so. Maybe it was because of the CC. I'll
> try sending it again. If it doesn't work, I'll temporarily upload it
> somewhere and give you the link.

If you have sent it, I didn't get it. 54KB should not be a
problem for Comcast. I did get your X-mass card (thank you)
and it is over 2MB.

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Steve Carroll

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Dec 22, 2019, 1:46:13 PM12/22/19
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Doomsdrzej must appreciate that Snit can go get Access, right, medhead? And, of course, anyone can just ignore him, which renders his kiddie crap meaningless, just like Doomsdrzej ;)

Doomsdrzej pretends that he uses ChromeOS, while really he never works with it on bare metal and fully pushed it. I have a number of reasons for believing the flooder is Doomsdrzej, who is a self professed C developer but I don't know if it could be used to automate this.

It was Doomsdrzej who was openly asking how better to camouflage his forgeries. Doomsdrzej failed to show a single time of an effective business that has earned its fortune by not caring about its clients and services.

My view is much more sophisticated.

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RonB

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Dec 22, 2019, 2:24:36 PM12/22/19
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He did a lot of good things in COLA. It was actually an advocacy newsgroup
for a while. Unfortunately the Prescott Parasite did what it does best and
crapped in its own COLA nest. Everyone wants to get away from the stench
sooner or later.

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RonB

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Dec 22, 2019, 2:27:46 PM12/22/19
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This ("Snit" crap) coming from the most needy, attention demanding troll who
ever existed? The gall of the Prescott Parasite is beyond belief. What
worthless slime.

Snit

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Dec 22, 2019, 3:13:23 PM12/22/19
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Now that you recognize your issue, stop posting this "Snit crap" you are
posting.

Post about tech instead.

Good luck!

Steve Carroll

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Dec 22, 2019, 3:33:35 PM12/22/19
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It's a long, long war, and mGhost is simultaneously a master at off-the-cuff trolling remarks, while posting with socks with a myriad of tells. This is what happens when deeply low self-respect takes over mGhost's life. With all the gloating mGhost's done on this topic, the 'Scripting King' doesn't understand how to do this. It seriously takes a couple seconds to select text and 'translate' it. mGhost is being controlled by VPN God Marek. I'm about to just bin him, myself. Like all losers, he is constantly looking for some way to criticize, no matter how laughable the allegation. I will not see his response to this post. He's hurting, wants to pretend he is innocent, and will vilify. Most likely opening with a huffy "LOL", as if what I have written is *so* crazy. That BADish "approach" was the final indignity, for me.

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Snit

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Notice how you blame me... even though I was the ONLY one who took Marek
up on his VPN challenge. And even he admitted I passed. And I did that
even as he cried about how since he is a better scripter than I am (and
he is) this somehow means the Mac was limited in some way (what?) and
then thought it the Mac was limited I would be personally tied to that,
even though I have never worked for Apple.

Hey, why don't we look at more tech stuff. I like some of the
challenges... though if they are too much into the programming area I am
out.

Steve Carroll

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I think the point is more than to get people to listen to him. The point is likely to piss me off for trolling outside groups he knows I frequent.

In spite of my own dislike of CentOS, I nonetheless continue to install it for people who've had complications with the Mac, particularly if I have learned that they're not capable at securing their computers and using window widgets. Just idiotic trolling. And I am rewarding that trolling. THAT is what the "Onion Knight circus" is. Who *doesn't* know that this kind of hot air is Onion Knight's modus operandi, not the MO of Joel? It's all just nonsense... the flooding, the posting with Joel's name, the writing of word-twisted nonsense, the animosity... the false bravado and tendency to show how butthurt he is over being kicked from the sandbox for pooping in it again... just what Onion Knight does.

What were you doing? Onion Knight can only rationalize from the viewpoint of a psychopath.



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Steve Carroll

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In article <328ae2c8-12e1-4830...@googlegroups.com>, Steve
Carroll wrote:

> > Sandman:
> > <http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/postingtimes/Snit/Flooding> It doesn't show what
> > interval the script is run at, but how he has used it, at least in
> > the beginning. I stopped logging it this way back in may :)
>
> From what I've personally looked at, it looks like it's all over the
> map.

Yes, with obvious scripted sessions. Not saying some of it isn't manual.

> > Sandman:
> > Maybe I'll update it :)
>
> What would it take to do that?

For "later" to occur!

<http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/postingtimes/Snit/Flooding>

That's a running tally of Snit's non-sock posts and his flooding during the
last month. It'll update automatically and always show the last two months.


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Sammy

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Dec 22, 2019, 4:20:07 PM12/22/19
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Apparently snit is having yet another of his mental breakdowns because my
bozo bin is filling up with dozens upon dozens of posts from his spam-bot
script.
Maybe Santa will bring snit a bottle of chlorpromazine for Xmas.
A super-sized bottle.
Snit certainly *is* a parasite.

Snit

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Dec 22, 2019, 5:39:24 PM12/22/19
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Another Carroll sock post.

What?

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On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:39:21 -0700, Snit, cogitated
You're really out to get you.

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Steve Carroll

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VPN Egomaniac Marek Novotny is regularly seen declaring "NOT THERE" when it comes to information on the Internet where information is there multiple times... but VPN Egomaniac Marek Novotny is just too thickheaded and lazy to recognize any info he reads... or he doesn't recognize it *as* data even when he does find it. Just baloney from him. But VPN Egomaniac Marek Novotny has completely left objectivity behind and is just holding me culpable for the actions of himself. SC is only less expensive if your time has no value. Why do you keep repeating mGhost?

In fact VPN Egomaniac Marek Novotny's lies only grew. So naturally I regret sending hardware to VPN Egomaniac Marek Novotny. While I am sure his shills liked it, he has taught me to never try to appease a troll.



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Rene Lamontagne

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On 2019-12-22 7:18 p.m., Bud Frede wrote:
> I thought snit was first in the Mac advocacy group (was it csma?) and turned that into a
> wasteland. All the other Mac users fled, so it found another group where
> it could try to get a rise out of people. Sane people then gave up on
> cola and now the troll is trying to ruin more groups.
>


So why the fuck does everybody feed his ego?
So Why don't you all just *shitCan* him then he'll die off?

Rene

Steve Carroll

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I nonetheless am unconvinced that these flooding posts are not from F. Russell, clearly they are from HWSNBN. Until HWSNBN offers up his 'preferable' Xfce application for testing, there is no challenge, just giddy contentions. Was that meant to be your best shot?

Just stupid trolling. And I am rewarding that trolling. THAT is what the "HWSNBN circus" is.

What did F. Russell expect from the lying imbecile? That HWSNBN nincompoop has nothing to squander but time. He has nothing else, especially not a life.



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Clone King

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Dec 22, 2019, 9:49:10 PM12/22/19
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On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 20:05:37 -0600, Rene Lamontagne <rla...@shaw.ca>
wrote:
+100000000

That's what we did in CSMA.
Snit got so frustrated by the sudden lack of attention that in a last
desperate attempt at keeping his circus alive he unleashed a sock
puppet army into the group so at one point there was a half dozen or
more snit socks all talking to each other.
Despite all the noise, we stood firm and we drove snit right out CSMA.

Unfortunately for our Linux using friends, snit parked his circus in
COLA and some other Linux groups where he continues to wreak havoc.

Snit

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Dec 22, 2019, 10:13:24 PM12/22/19
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Keep in mind most of these "people" are one person... Steve Carroll. He
is upset his circus is not going as he wishes and is throwing a tantrum.

Aragorn

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On 22.12.2019 at 12:16, Wildman scribbled:

> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 09:11:55 +0100, Aragorn wrote:
>
> > > The file is only 54 KiB or so. Maybe it was because of the CC.
> > > I'll
> > try sending it again. If it doesn't work, I'll temporarily upload
> > it somewhere and give you the link.
>
> If you have sent it, I didn't get it. 54KB should not be a
> problem for Comcast. I did get your X-mass card (thank you)
> and it is over 2MB.

I've sent you an email with a link where you can download them. ;)


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Steve Carroll

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Dec 23, 2019, 12:26:09 AM12/23/19
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But Jeremy feels the need to attack the cult-like herd of convenient friends.

Jeremy suffers from neurotic drug trips so, to him, everything, even responses to his idiocy, are "attacks". Who *doesn't* know this? Jeremy can't get anything else to work, either.

All that matters is that Jeremy gets to express his crank call and then hang up and giggle about it. The fact that mGhost is an involuntary target on the other end of the phone is what's funny.



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Dec 23, 2019, 12:47:56 AM12/23/19
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Got it, thanks.

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Steve Carroll

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Dec 23, 2019, 1:12:19 AM12/23/19
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Any horrendously wounded insomniac could easily do the same. Usenet is a sovereign non-organization based on the belief in good character that F 'The Fool' Russell lacks.

I guess this is what comes about when really poor pride takes over F 'The Fool' Russell's persona. But when the charts were produced, it turns out by _that_ criteria, F 'The Fool' Russell was far more "narcissistic" than anybody else. You're like a fool wearing a gorilla outfit at the prom. We all see you hiding there and just laugh at you. And you're so stupid you keep rejecting it.

After ignoring all the nyms from F 'The Fool' Russell, it's just F 'The Fool' Russell authoring nearly all of the trollcrap. Yes. And both entirely disturbed loons.

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Dec 23, 2019, 1:58:13 AM12/23/19
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After Bash-man Marek's update I no longer can get work done on Linux. Like anyone can!

The only way that I could disregard Systemd's constant need for fiddling because of incompatibility issues or poorly applied features is if I consumed the steady supply of lies its community have been pushing since 2009.

Did he think that was clever? Who does NOT know that this kind of lies is Jeff 'The Flooder' Relf's MO, not the MO of Bash-man Marek? It's all just projection... the flooding, the posting with Bash-man Marek's name, the writing of gibberish, the outbursts... the panties in a twist and willingness to show how flustered he is over being banned from the sandbox for crapping in it again ;) Does Bash-man Marek even believe the lies Jeff 'The Flooder' Relf is pushing?

Fool!



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Steve Carroll

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Being self-governed as it is, the listserv concept will never go away but it'll never be popular. Too many advocates keep replying to William Poaster. In truth I don't blame Marek Novotny for his fury but, truly, I do not conceive why he stays here at all. Marek Novotny is better at conversations as experienced in a serious group and unmoderated groups will never work for him.

Do you have a CCNA certification?

So, yeah, I buy into my own inner world, fully knowing it would never be discovered by others, because it makes me reconsider my code, improving it. I guess this is what comes about when seriously inferior faith in oneself takes over William Poaster's life.

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Steve Carroll

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Dec 23, 2019, 7:25:35 AM12/23/19
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On Sunday, December 22, 2019 at 11:12:19 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
I bet we have different perspectives for a good reason.

Just Wondering only thinks about Super Scripter Marek, Super Scripter Marek, Super Scripter Marek! I think the point is far from just to get Super Scripter Marek to listen to him. The point is likely to piss me off for trolling outside groups he knows I frequent.

Thus, my unedited statement stands sincere and correct.



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Steve Carroll

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It was mGhost who stated that he and his college buddies used to rip off customers all the time and it was just fun, not even a small deal. The majority of advocates in this forum do programming either as a pastime or as a career, so I am skeptical anyone here thinks of automation to be "black magic". Despite mGhost's claim that he has "no experience in making a flood bot" (a lie as illustrated by the fact that he hacked Snit's Gmail account) he was seen asking IT departments how they would take down a website. Why would you trust me if you trust there's a possibility that I use socks and shills? That literally works in your brain? This is the current 'rule' by those calling themselves 'leftists', you must 'exonerate' yourself, you are no longer merely suspected, you are presumed guilty until you clear your name, which can not be done in this environment.

Don't look now, but I think mGhost has a serious brocrush on Snit.



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R. Mutt

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RonB <ronb02...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2019-12-18, Aragorn <thor...@telenet.be> wrote:
>> On 17.12.2019 at 20:56, Soviet_Mario scribbled:
>>
>>> On 17/12/19 18:46, Chris Elvidge wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 17/12/2019 17:33, Soviet_Mario wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> what of these does COLA acronym means ?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.allacronyms.com/COLA
>>>>>
>>>> comp.os.linux.advocacy
>>>>
>>>> Don't add any .advocacy groups unless you really want them.
>>>
>>> ok, I won't ... actually I'm not even sure of the translation.
>>> In my mother language "advocates" are attorneys/layers. So I
>>> figured out some sort of discussion-oriented ng (discussion
>>> in the meaning of debates)
>>
>> The English word "advocacy" denotes an activity or a debate with the
>> intent of promoting something, but without sinking into propaganda
>> tactics.
>>
>>> But I have noticed for the few times I happened to interact
>>> with threads stemmed from "there" a lot of tendency to
>>> nurture useless flames rather than debates, so your advice
>>> is welcome, and maybe I'll just try to add some filter
>>
>> comp.os.linux.advocacy is a sewer, and has been under siege from a
>> small number of rabid and mentally deranged Windows fanatics since the
>> group's inception. These Windows fanatics are small in numbers, but they
>> use sock puppet accounts to make it appear as if they are legion. They
>> also lie all the time.
>>
>> Nothing that gets crossposted between C.O.L.A. and other newsgroups
>> will ever lead to anything constructive. Those threads are
>> deliberately intended as flame bait, and they always succeed in their
>> intent.
>
> I've got slrn set to autmatically filter out any and all crossposted
> messages. I simply don't see them.

Why? There are a lot of legit messages that are crossposted to relevant
groups.

Sammy

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I agree. I have snit and his gibberish spammer script filtered in pan so
I don't see either of them.

Steve Carroll

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Dec 23, 2019, 8:57:40 AM12/23/19
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Who are you even talking to? Marketing is a wonderful thing and consumer herd mentality is even better.

Ha! Give it up, dude... even you have filtered that lamebrain. Given what he is not a soul should blame me for pushing to be rid of his monstrous style of jive. Absolute bunk by a delusional, lying, deceitful, colluding nitwit who would not be honest even if he swore on his mother's grave.



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William Poaster

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William Poaster <w...@dev.null> wrote in
news:pan.2019.12.23....@dev.null:
It won't work. Snit is like a cockroach, he will survive a nuclear blast.
If he is ignored he will unleash his sock puppet army and destroy the
group. It's happened before and now that he has his floodbot he can
automate his various socks to the level where they are all talking with
each other.

Steve Carroll

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Dec 23, 2019, 9:28:47 AM12/23/19
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Linux's update system failed over and over again.

Rambling cretin. See: I noted examples of Joel failing to rise up and instead putting others down, twisting Snit's words, etc. His response: to change the topic. I think Joel does not even know what is wrong with Joel.

It was Joel who forged me (and Snit) and bragged about it.

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RonB

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Dec 23, 2019, 2:55:28 PM12/23/19
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Yep. It's all "Me, me, me... look at me, look at me." The Prescott Parasite
doesn't have his own life so he tries to suck it out of others. That's why
the best thing to do with him is to killfile him. Then he ends up talking to
his sock puppets but that's better than giving him attention.

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RonB

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Dec 23, 2019, 2:57:26 PM12/23/19
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On 2019-12-23, Bud Frede <fr...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> I do have it scored down, and I don't reply to it.
>
> You're right though, that even mentioning it peripherally is likely to
> be gratifying to it, so I won't be mentioning it again.

That's true. I need to correct myself here.

RonB

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I know. But I would respond to a post (not realizing it was crossposted) and
would get a message saying "why are posting this in *name the usegroup*?" I
didn't want to do that (even by accident) so the easiest solution (for me)
was just to eliminate all crossposts. Doing this removes a lot of SPAM. I'm
sure I miss some legitimate posts, but the "price" is worth it to me.

Steve Carroll

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Marek reported -hh years ago. As expected, it did not a thing to derail the clod. Does Marek believe the nonsense -hh is pushing? After the latest update I no longer want to gouge out my eyeballs from the flicker of the screen. Requesting -hh to stop trolling, which I have done, is not the same as showing his insincerity. My argument was that folk post here so that they can catch idiots. It's not as if we all do not quickly figure out what this forum is, Marek especially. You _do_ realize that the massive floods ending up in multiple groups started out when -hh was quoted lying.



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